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« on: May 09, 2006, 01:24:10 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HYIP

HYIP
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HYIP stands for High Yield Investment Program. HYIPs are purported investment programs normally offered via the Internet. HYIPs typically accept investments of $100 or less while promising high returns. The introduction of e-currencies such as e-gold and StormPay (although almost all HYIPs do not use StormPay as of February 2006, see StormPay article for why) has made it easy for HYIPs to operate across international boundaries, and to accept large numbers of small investments.

No HYIP has, as yet, survived for very long without turning out to be a scam. Scam HYIPs are Ponzi schemes, in which new investors (usually unwittingly) provide the cash to pay a profit to existing investors, which they could then withdraw leaving nothing to pay the new investor. This approach allows the scam to continue as long as new investors are found and/or old investors leave their money in the scheme, known as compounding (because even higher profits are promised).

HYIPs are frequently advertised in spam emails, forums or mailing lists, since people are typically given a commission (for example, 9% of invested funds) when they provide a referral of a new customer.

HYIPs typically are not based in the United States, Europe, or Japan - countries that have strong laws against unregistered investment programs. HYIPs disclose little or no detail about the principals, management, location, or other aspects of whom is getting the money to be invested, and relatively little information (other than asserting that they do various types of trading on various stock and other exchanges) on how their investment programs actually work.

The largest hyip scam that has ever existed is PIPS (People in Profit System or Pure Investors)[1], [2]. The investment scheme was started by an engineer Bryan Marsden in 2004 (according to way back machine's record of pureinvestor.com) and spanned more than 20 countries in the world. PIPS is now being investigated by Bank Negara Malaysia [3]

According to a website HYIP Scam Search that maintains a database of HYIP scams daily, as at May of 2006, the total number of HYIP scams was approximately 3500. This is the total number of scams occurred from 2004 to 2006 and excluding scams not reported. About 5 new scams are reported every day. 89% of the scams preferred e-gold as their online payment processors than others.

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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2006, 09:44:10 AM »

I think everyone needs to Read this post and go to Wikipedia and see for theirselves.
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2006, 12:51:31 AM »

I like the Wikipedia article....now if we could just google bomb it to the point it shows up in the searches for HYIP. 
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2006, 10:00:16 AM »

Place the artilce all over the place! In free website from geocities, yahoo, msnspace, myspace....
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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2006, 08:21:46 AM »

I like the Wikipedia article....now if we could just google bomb it to the point it shows up in the searches for HYIP. 
Place the artilce all over the place! In free website from geocities, yahoo, msnspace, myspace....

Let's put links all over TalkGold and other hyip forums shall we? in a natural manner so as to not invite ban.
for example, while posting some comments with the world "hyip", cite the article using URL tag,
hyip
i.e. replace all "hyip"s in your comments with tags.
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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2006, 08:36:47 AM »

hehe....let's party
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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2006, 11:49:04 AM »

Like this?   Google Bomb

How it is done

A google bomb could be achieved easily; this is a possible scenario:

   1. The initiator chooses a word to be searched : "liars".
   2. The initiator chooses the target website : "http://example.com/".
   3. The initiator creates a link like this : <a href="http://example.com/">liars</a>.
   4. The initiator places this code in his website, as his signature in forum, in his blogs, etc.
   5. The initiator talks to other people about the bomb and tells other people to use the code in their own writings.
   6. GoogleBot indexes and ranks, resulting in http://google.com/search?q=liars having the victim's webpage as the first result.
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2006, 12:11:58 AM »

Avoid TalkGold!
it adds a rel="nofollow" to all user-made links, rendering Googlebot to ignore them.

MMG does not turn on this function.
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2006, 04:23:45 AM »

BAD NEWS!!!!

Talkgold now reigns over the search results for hyip
I've asked several neutral sites to cut their links to Goldpoll, and so Goldpoll's rank dropped abit.
But the wiki article's rank is still not high enough to stay on top.
We need to spread the message to more webmasters.
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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2006, 10:02:28 AM »



    1. An Investment of Money. The term “investment of money” is where an investor commits assets to a venture in a way as to subject himself to financial losses. Under the usual investment vehicle, each investor commits funds to the capital development of a plan. Should a plan be unsuccessful, than the issuer will be unable to return an investor’s money. This is always the easy element to find.

    2. Common Enterprise. The common enterprise element has been discussed in concepts known as ‘horizontal and vertical commonality’. Horizontal commonality requires the fortunes of each investor be linked to the others. Vertical commonality requires a finding that the fortunes of the investor are interwoven with and dependent upon the efforts of those seeking investments by new third parties. An investment plan is typically a common enterprise under both the horizontal and vertical common interest criteria. The fortunes of each investor are dependent upon the success of the issuer in either retailing merchandise in a legal MLM, or attracting new recruits in an illegal pyramid scheme, or attracting new investors’ money in a classic Ponzi scheme. Investors have a “vertical” common interest with the promoters of the plan, or third parties, and a “horizontal” common interest with other investors.

    The concept of an investment contract does not require that the efforts of promoters or third parties be the sole efforts upon which the failure or success of the enterprise is based. Historically, there was some controversy on this point. The Supreme Court wrote of this prong of the test as “with profits to come solely from the efforts of others.” The present general rule virtually ignores the adverb “solely” in Howey and holds that investments where decisions made by those other than the investors are the essential, though not the exclusive, efforts effecting the failure or success of the enterprise.

    3. Reasonable Expectation of Profits. The Supreme Court’s analysis under the Howey test of the term “profits” emphasizes the economic realities of the transaction, i.e., whether a purchaser is motivated by a desire to use or consume the item purchased or whether the investor is attracted solely by the prospects of a return on investment. Almost certainly in typical Internet investments, expectation of profit exists as the primary reason for the investment.

    4. Solely from the Efforts of Others. As discussed in element two on commonality, the concepts are intertwined. Courts today reject a literal application of the fourth element, “solely from the efforts of others.” One SEC enforcement action case held, in language that does not make any sense to some readers: “whether the efforts made by those other than the investor are the undeniably significant ones, those essential managerial efforts which affect the failure or success of the enterprise.” Yet his quotation expresses the general test under the fourth prong that is presently used by the SEC and state securities regulators in their enforcement actions against illegal pyramid and Ponzi schemes.


This is as defined by the SEC:
http://www.mlmwatch.org/11Legal/sec.html
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« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2006, 11:36:09 AM »

We got it on the top 10 Now http://www.google.com/custom?domains=www.ponziscams.com&q=hyip&sa=Google+Search&sitesearch=&client=pub-9840577626090880&forid=1&channel=8645973971&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&flav=0000&sig=pq3c5IqUzC_2Yosq&cof=GALT%3A%23008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%236B8EAE%3BVLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AE1E1E1%3BLBGC%3A336699%3BALC%3A0000FF%3BLC%3A0000FF%3BT%3A000000%3BGFNT%3A0000FF%3BGIMP%3A0000FF%3BLH%3A50%3BLW%3A50%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fponziscams.com%2Fimages%2FPONZIS5050.gif%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.ponziscams.com%2Fsmf%3BFORID%3A1%3B&hl=en
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2006, 03:05:09 AM »

I added some content to the article. It's about "HYIP monitor", read and see if you like it!
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2006, 01:52:34 PM »

I added some content to the article. It's about "HYIP monitor", read and see if you like it!


Cool!  I am working on some software were we can add the Scam lists to a database, then people can go to it type in either the server IP, the domain name, the Egold Account, or Admins name and pull up the scams
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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2006, 08:42:34 PM »

Cool!  I am working on some software were we can add the Scam lists to a database, then people can go to it type in either the server IP, the domain name, the Egold Account, or Admins name and pull up the scams

aa419.org also has a similar database, that's a big project.
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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2006, 09:23:13 PM »

Cool!  I am working on some software were we can add the Scam lists to a database, then people can go to it type in either the server IP, the domain name, the Egold Account, or Admins name and pull up the scams

aa419.org also has a similar database, that's a big project.

DUH!!! Why didn;t I think of that before hand Look here http://www.ponziscams.com/monitor/blacklist.php

We can add them there....kinda...not as fully automated as I want
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